predator 212cc ghost kart racing engine

Thanks. Sorry if its a stupid question but I am trying to learn. Can you run a 212cc engine with a upgraded air filter , jets and gov removed with 18lb valve springs and be okay ? Im 200lbs riding a predator hemi minibike. Harbor Freight having its name on the promotional materials would be pretty effective marketing as most racers are already customers, and they would be more inclined to suggest their friends and family use Harbor Freight over other Warehouse Tool Stores. All products included in the kit are designed to get a racing kart onto the track as soon as possible. Yes, trumpet is deafening, cut is loud AF. We have invested millions of dollars in our own test labs and factories, so our tools will go toe-to-toe with the top professional brands. 212cc predator racing engine Engine Type: 4-Stroke Assembly Required: Yes Product Line: Predator Tank Capacity: 0.9 gal Power Source: Gasoline Power Rating: 212cc Features: Cable Start, Oil Alert Maximum Power: 12 HP Crankshaft Direction: Horizontal MPN: 57531 Engine Size: 212cc Fuel Type: Petrol Brand: Predator Application: Do some basic looking at the engine, make sure the gas tank has gas, the kill switch is set to ON, fuel lever on carb is set to ON, and the choke is ON when starting (try flipping to OFF if you cant get it to start after a few pulls). Thank you. Just pull on the cord gently to turn the engine over till you feel resistance on the compression stroke, then let the cord wind back up, then pull gently until you feel that tension, then give it a yank. its probably your centrifugal clutch, have you tried oiling the bushing? tapped? I have read just about every comment on this thread. if it needs a cleaning, there will be brown build up inside. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Do i just use the hole in the OHV cover to the vacuum side of the pump or what? EC Tech Review: HL-334WX, The Engine Builder's Carburetor, EC Tech Review: ECs Banzai .265 Race Cam, EC Tech Review: The new Tillotson Racing Blocks designed by EC Carburetors. The choke is actually an enrichment circuit and adds more fuel and unfortunately more air to the engine which causes it to rev to 2500 RPMs. Or am I simply wasting my time trying to pull this over with a billet flywheel? It does not store any personal data. Jetting only starts to matter a bunch above 6000 feet. I have a Yerf Dog 3203 with a stock predator 212, it pulls pretty well, but if I set the choke to run it just bogs down and dies when I hit the pedal. How would I get it to stay to where I can start it and it will stay and I can get in with out it moving? 1 product rating. Tillotsons Ducar 212 shipped from Ireland ? You will need to call a reputable race shop and ask them, or do some serious investigation looking at tables to make sure everything works out alright. It also has the performance exhaust header on it already. $2,799.00. Not pressure lubed. Could be the idle pilot jet.Its just running lean, and you gotta figure out why its running lean, which usually is an air leak after the carb, or partially blocked jet(s). So I was about to remove my governor but then I heard that doing that can blow my engine. Intake is .004 and exaust is .006. hmmm good questions. When I say you cant make it go faster, I am referring to the maximum governed RPM of the engine. 2,017. I rebuilt my pred 212 the other day and was riding around and there seems to be a slight loss of power and torque. Start out with a honda gx200 electric start or a tillotson electric start. Save $299.01 by shopping at Harbor Freight. If you stay under 5000 rpms, this probably wont happen, and valve float will probably occur before you reach rpms that could break the connecting rod or flywheel (happens around 6000+ RPM, but is not a figure to say anything less than 6k is good, which it is NOT). Can you jet for your target RPM? likely needle height. Then the man said, if you are going to do that much, you might as well go with a two cycle that was designed for that. piston stop tool, degree wheel, timing light: these are the tools the pros use to get real world numbers, but not all of us are pros, or have $60 laying around to get those tools so the simplest way to make sure your flywheel is still good is to take off the flywheel nut, then pull the flywheel and inspect the key. You may need to service and clean your clutch. Here is some background to help you understand why its dumping fuel. Available in-store and online, the GHOST 212cc Kart Racing Engine Accessory Kit is also competitively priced at $149.99. i went from a 50 to a 60 tooth rear sprocket! Hey kartfab how can i buy a go cart engine in india.have you ever heared about india, Building a 212cc bicycle now using a26in Schwinn Blackwell..I ordered the small pipe and high flow air filter with jet change. Also, is there anyway I would be able to tighten my brake band down in the rear? Today I was riding maybe about 3k rpm or so and I heard a pretty loud bang I wasnt sure quite what it was so I rode maybe 30 more feet and it did it again so I shut the engine off and stopped. Will cost $100-$350 depending on quality of clutch but they will all work. This wire is not needed for operation and you should always check the oil level before you run your engine from now on. If you get a different engine, a lifan is typically a clone, and other clones are clones of the gx200 (a 196cc engine) most clone engines that are 196cc engines, are exact copies of the honda gx200 engines, but have less durable materials, especially the rubber stuff. The governor limits your top speed, you will just accelerate faster(more torque), but not go any faster. so 7 hp might go up to 8-10, and max speed from lets say 25 might go up to 35 or 40, just depends on what you do and what your gearing is. Will this help me go 5 mph faster or more like 20 mph? no, just be safe about it. This can be really bad, but isnt an issue for most people until it is. They always come with a governor. Modified cam? It should start within 2-3 pulls and run only for a few seconds. I have a predator 212cc engine and it runs and Im in the middle of moving it onto another body (frame) and it will start and everything, but it wont idle unless it is on choke so when I turn the choke off it dies unless I rev up the engine then it will run but as soon as I let off the throttle it dies so in wondering what I need to do to get it to idle? What do I do with the on off switch? Chinese motors good. Do not put in heavier valve springs if you plan on keeping in the stock rod and flywheel. Ive been trying to find a manual transmission for this engine Id be nice if it had a manual clutch too any help? Keep in mind that mini bikes and go karts are not precision made machines, so you would need to check tension by rotating the engine or rear wheel a couple times to make sure its not too tight at a certain spot of rotation. Does the rod add any extra benefit? Im building the fixed axel two seat go kart from the plans and was wondering if the 6.5hp 212cc engine was the biggest one that would fit on the kart, or could you go bigger and more powerful without messing up the torque or running out of space? I want electric start and F/N/R. Any tips or advice for building a motor which will turn high RPMs for extended periods? The roof bang on them shingles. The valve cover does need what is called a pulse fitting. No governor. Look at the parts diagram in the users manual, it lists the part number. This cookie is set by GDPR Cookie Consent plugin. WTF? Ok sounds good, how do I make sure. I have just removed the gov also. I removed my governor and I can rip at 7000 rpm without fear of slinging a rod or cracking a flywheel, so i have a go kart with the predator 212 that i am upgrading and a have a few questions. I have a Mikuni carb on mine and the governor engaged and sheared the piston on both engines its a mess. If it only runs for a few seconds, you have a fuel delivery issue where the gas tank, fuel line, and carburetor need to be cleaned out thorougly. its all stock and i average about 11 mph with just two people in my boat.. i would like to get up to 15 loaded with 2 people and gear for duck hunting. Do you recommend adjusting jets? I was wondering why (or why not) I should get a billet flywheel as an upgrade as well? My predator 212 mL did the same thing when I did it right turn come to find out if your gas tank gets low to low like maybe like a hat to a half maybe a little bit more than a half it and hit a right turn makes the gas was around in there and the thing that sucks the gas up dont get gas I started out but I always feel not next to it filled at all times and it won, Check your gas to gas gets low maybe to a half a tank or a little lower somewhere around in there every time we do a right turn is going cut off because of that piece inside the gas tank sucks to gas up and when you go to spin your right turn the gas dont get to it so do it with gas and then just try to write turns and I guarantee you itll work DRETT, Ok so. I have new throttle cable and handle on the way. New valves meant for racing. The float is not sticking, the jets are clean and open, and the plunger works fine. it wont get to a very high rpm. same hp. Hey why are you only going like 35 mph I have the same thing a Baja warrior with a 212 predator connected to a centrifugal clutch and im going like 55, 60 mph. It will be interesting to see what happens. did you check clearances when you put in the cam? The former Briggs director middling would contribute to the Tillotson 196 being banned in competition. I put it on my boys kart and tried to start it.. it seems like the valves are backwards. Click on the kit link, you will see it there as an option. Try a 0.035 jet with a gx140 emulsion tube. Thanks. my 212 did not start until in unplugged the oil level sensor, that is the yellow wire coming out of the block going to the small box bolted to the side of the block. A couple of years ago two builders had a build off with the HONDA GX200 and one produced 45 HP for 30 seconds and that was the end of that engine. I bought the intake, muffler, and the drilled jet on amazon; with that being said i can go ahead and remove the governor and not worry about anything else? The yerf dog i had was very light and small, even then it had a 7 driven, and was geared for only 28-30mph. A lot of times the clones have a different looking shroud, gas tank, muffler, and air box, but the stuff inside has the same dimensions. Engine needs fuel, air, spark. Functional cookies help to perform certain functionalities like sharing the content of the website on social media platforms, collect feedbacks, and other third-party features. the line from the gas tank is just a vent that the EPA requires. Sounds like you know what your talking about. Some people even believe theirs an advantage, The logic is it takes less force to push something up a incline then lift it straight up so when the pistons are coming back up on a stroke its fighting less force? If you can get it to turn over (not start, just rotate), then you go to the next step; hold the sparkplug edge (the big hex nut looking part) to any bare metal on the engine while pulling the cord. And each 212 was different, making it almost impossible for the organizations to support one over the other. Do that make any exhaust pipe that doesnt look stupid or bent/shaped weird when its mounted on the engine? Hope that helps. Id just go with a.036 and see how it feels, you may have to go smaller though based on what you find out with how the engine runs. Yeah, you can use whatever hole you like. @KARTFAB: hey man I bought the stage 1 kit from you: long header air filter and adapter .038 jet and GX140 E-Tube I also purchased a Tav2 30 series torque converter. I am planning on getting the intake, exhaust, and jet. You can find a standard predator212cc engine online, then work your way up with mods by replacing the intake, exhaust, jet, and disconnecting the governor. We are at 4000 foot elevation what do you advise for jet size and emulsion tube? A cam with a high lift accomplishes the same thing as rockers they both lift the valves HIGHER, allowing air and exhaust to flow more freely through the head. Give it gas only after warming up (run engine a few minutes). If you spin the engine to high rpms the crank journal will dry out and heat up and cause the rod to seize onto the crank and snap. 4550 an trying yo get more we out up it but im racing stock any advice on how. after each mod, around what hp will the engine get to? Synthetic oil will give you a tiny, negligible boost in performance. Wondering if the Predator 212 or even better 420cc would be an easy install on a Ace Maxxam 150 2R Buggy? Thanks. Harbor Freight also has power tools like drills and impacts, hand tools like torque wrenches and screwdrivers, toolboxes of all shapes and sizes, and many other products you use to work on and maintain your engine, kart, and tow rig. My valve lash is set currently to .003, thinking it might be something with valve timing? Will install everything this weekend. You cannot make that comparison, because engines are not fast they rotate a shaft (measured in rotations per minute) and produce torque, and how you gear a go kart with a particular engine, and transmission determines how fast the go kart will go. It looks to have the same specs , but I am assuming no carburetor. If the black screw doesnt control the idle speed, then you need to make sure the throttle linkages are working and not bypassed. Probably the 13. I put on air filter and breather filter where do the vacuum lines from the top of the gas tank go if I add a breather filter to the crank case? did you get a massive exhaust? Any idea what that is caused by? I would absolutely put in a billet connecting rod. thats a loaded question. check plug first im at high altitude 3500 so the plug that it came with is black=tooo much gas already so it needs a smaller jet than the .028 it comes with. If you want to avoid those things, you get a billet connecting rod, billet flywheel, and valve springs appropriate for your target max rpm. If you are really cheap, you can just 1) attempt to tap the crank for the honda 2) buy a new crank for the honda, or 2) buy a new rod for the predator. .038 is usually a good jet size for the predator engines btw. Few thou longer than stock rod so slightly higher compression. Idle should be around 1600 rpm. But we cant leave well enough alone can we? Not only is Harbor Freight eliminating their current Predator 212 engine with the Predator 224 and Ghost 212, but they are cutting off the Tillotson 212E and Ducar 212 from the market. These kits often sell for under 100 usd. .035 to .038 main is fine for a stock venturi. $7585. It really should be based on the power you are making at your target rpm range. Tillotson's current problem is participation. awesome gains. The throttle isnt releasing all the way. This is Stage 1 on the upgrade list. You need a 30 series torque converter kit. Through the cable at all? Can you mill the head? I know id need a fuel pump but how can i do this as theres nothing on the internet! Heres an example: A bone stock engine is properly jetted. I think they will deliver to you. I really dont want to spend as much or more then the engine for it if I dont need to.it already has stage 1 performance kit installed ( stock valve springs) What do you recommend? 5. Heres my two cents.. While predator does not come with electronics start kits are available all over the internet and involve an obvious flywheel change addition of z charging stator and the the starter along with ignition circuitry. Can you tell me how to plumb a catch can on predator 212 with a after market air filter. All 3 engines cut out while going around corners or over bumps.. tge carbs have no high end adjustment only idle adjustment any ideas on how to fix the problem? Im not sure on what one to get. Where do the lines from the top of the gas tank and the other line from the valve cover go? If you want it to be stock appearing, you dont mod it Stock appearing usually refers to springs, which are usually meant to look stock, but may be illegal to race with, unless your particular set of rules allow stock appearing mods. get them to add fuel pump. Specifications Shop Now for Item 57531 PREDATOR GHOST 212cc Kart Racing Engine - Item 57531 you can keep it in, but why would you leave it in if you have a stage 2 kit? Good luck and have fun zooming around in your modded predator 212cc performance go kart engine! So what to do? The only additive I use in my gas is the fuel stabilizer that helps reduce the harmful effects of ethanol and keeps it fresh for up to 1 yr. its called Stabil, I am having trouble with my mini bike that I put a predator 212 on. If so how does it pull I have a twister kart full suspend tin and thinking about using the 212 cause I got it for free !! How do I do a direct linkage? Now when I try to start it . Thanks. It only made the cost of racing to go up. Some people just rotate it and let it vent downward. All around better fuel setup would be to get a mikuni 22 mm carb w/adapter. The engine. That makes this package $450 before taxes. Borrowed a ring compressor from my uncle. Is it even necessary to remove governor? Put the stock head gasket back in and it had plenty of compression. I have a 6.5 predator motor on my mini bike i took out govenor and the plastic gears shredded inside the motor and it started dying out n not going so i bought a new motor and took out all parts to the governor completly out then after driving it full out it started dyeing out at top speed on this one too then i read up n said i needed 18# springs to keep it from floating so i did that but its now throwing white smoke from the tail pipe n still at top speed cutting out on me n then dyes completely what do i do or whats am i not doing?? The new Ghost has a 6000 rpm digital governor, heavy valve springs, top plate, and VM22 round slide carb. When i go to start it up right after it dies, it starts right up and stays idling like normal. Might as well keep it stock if you do that. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); For any difficulty using this site with a screen reader or because of a disability, please contact us at 1-800-444-3353 or cs@harborfreight.com. However you may visit Cookie Settings to provide a controlled consent. The fact that someone even mentioned 80 hp as a max is a true testament to their ignorance. A blueprinted carb could have an opening that is optimal for lets say 7500 rpm, but you only run it at 400 rpm and you could get that symptom as well. The stock flywheel is 24BDC correct? Merci beaucoup, jattends de vos nouvelles , I put a stage one filter on my 212 predator engine now it bogs down when you give it all the throttle, Is there any way to run my predator 212cc motor without a clutch or does it have to have it, No its not the jetting your intake adaptor is wrong missing the vacuum vent cut out. Gabe. Any ideas? So many of the importers, including ourselves, look to have a better version to compete against the Predator engines. Or change jets in Carb. Harbor Freight should create a Ghost 212 Racing Website where tracks can register their Ghost 212 Program to gain points for prizes. governor removed or no? Btw, the reason it wont go any higher is because youre floating the valves.basically, the springs are battling so much force that they cant close the valves which is why you get stronger springs. I noticed very quickly that it was not running very well and I immediately knew that it was the jet so I bought a drill bit to the exact recommended size and drilled out the jet. That didnt help at all so I moved onto buying the better built carburetor that you can change the fuel air mixture on and tried the jet I redrilled and that didnt work so I tried the new one and then tried redrilling the new one and nothing worked. Im a little nervous as to remove the governor, Ive had past adults in my life telling me that removing it is a bad idea, are there any precautions I should take? for regular karts, synthetic mobil 1 10w30 for break in and riding around. Most times, if you buy a camshaft that is a performance cam, you will get a card with that cam that tells you what you need to set your valve lash to, timing to, and what valve springs to use. Will start right back up. Floating? The GHOST high performance go-kart engine from PREDATOR RACING is specifically designed and engineered for competition racing and drop fits in most major chassis brands. If you want to make whatever you have your engine connected to (Im assuming mini bike or go kart) go faster while maintaining the same maximum governed RPM, you only have two options. When choke id turned off engine dies unless already full throttle. You run the risk of blowing a connecting rod though if you rev too high. I have I think a high rev 110 (gk110) in now, which is missing carb and exhaust and I cant find parts. Had to get a longer hose for crankcase vent. Also sometimes the piston will blow up in the engine to so be careful with that. I have just recently bough another predator 212 engine (used) and the previous owner has removed the govener. You may need to put 3/4 to 1 adapter on it, but the comet 780 is good for up to 7000 rpms and can handle all the hp you can jam into the predator 212. keep in mind that if you do use a torque converter, you will lose hp through parasitic drag. Limiting RPM would do a lot to help since most of the blueprinting with a clone is to get more RPM out of the engine by reducing weight and manipulating the valve springs and valve train. Roller rockers and a high lift cam. Try and just run it with the stage one mods https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTUQvR4A9Ds Once you do stage 1 mods, you can still have the governor intact. JavaScript is disabled. For $120.00, you can buy a 6.5 h.p. I just bought a predator 212 to put on a cart and I have removed the governor and.working on the oil sensor and what I want to know is, is it better to simply disconnect the sensor wires and disable it, OR should I actually remove the unit from the engine? Truth be told, we had already been made aware that it's been testing with a karting parts manufacturer and has been very promising in their results. It depends. Extensive Aftermarket for Stock and Performance Parts. Thats why I went with the CR950 by Briggs & Stratton. Tire manufacturers have also done well-sponsoring tracks with tires, trophies, and leather jackets. The flywheel is the last upgrade id do on an engine, and even that is debatable. It could be that the valvetrain is messed up somehow (check lifters, and make sure the pushrods are set in the little pockets on the lifters and rocker arms, then check/set valve lash. I bet that will change very quickly for anyone of them smart enough to act on it. And now. sounds like the timing is off or a bent pushrod (exhaust side), harbor freight has them on their website. Amsoil would be a good one as well as long as it has the ZDDP in it to protect cam lobes and lifter surfaces. 18lb springs. The engine will typically turn 3600-3800 governed. Once i built tgis thing to the maximum and am confident in my abilities i will build something bigger. In the instances where you dont get enough (or cant get any) fuel flow, that is where you need a pulsed fuel pump. The sprint and oval karting markets differ in their ideology regarding engines. One of the most immediate reactions will be resistance. He didn't have any detailed information on it, but they're apparently out there now. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. When you visit our website, we store cookies on your browser to collect information. any springs that are heavier than stock will rob horsepower until right before they float. Make sure your alignment is good, and is done perfectly for the track you will be racing on (e.g. By clicking Accept, you consent to the use of ALL the cookies. Hemis have a shorter valve spring installed height so be careful choosing springs hemi s use a Honda clone block with a bigger bore theres a ton I could go on, Hi kart fab If you want to go 60 mph, i dont want to be a part of it. hey kartfabgotta question..my predator 212 ..custom air/exhaustupgraded jet.i got some 26 # valve springs,are they too stiff for a stock engine?should i go down to 18#?..i want to avoid the mod 2 cam,as i dont want it to sound like a racer engine and it makes crazy power as it is. Jetted to #36 high flow exhaust. Please!! Valve lash set too wide (doesnt open compression release) or a sheared flywheel key (timing messed up). Our local 1/4 mile asphault track started a new 6.5 hp 212cc predator motor class. max rpm, torque, power band, will pass tech, etc. So much that it has found its way to more significant national-sized events, it's not hard to imagine that Harbor Freight sells more engines than all the other engine importers or manufacturers in karting. The Briggs Racing program exists because it's part of their marketing program, and since the Intek is no longer made, what are they advertising? However, I dont exactly know how to setup a new throttle linkage after you have tampered with the original one and would like you to help me by either making a video about it, or just instructing me on how to do this. Those bully clutches dont grenade like that unless you are using them in a way they were not intended to be used, or not maintaining them properly. Before I installed jets and intake I already had pipe. If you change the jet size too large, your engine will run rich, be sluggish off the line, and may shoot out black soot. If it were me personally, Id get a high performance 2 stroke meant for this stuff, as your life literally depends on it. good luck! Please go back and look at everything you touched. Is it the oil sensor? Depends on what you rebuilt. Bought used. So I cleaned the rest of the carburetor and put it back together and still nothing. Need to know where i go next. If you are upgrading valve springs, you should upgrade the flywheel and connecting rod. A quick question about getting the timing advance set correctly. When you remove governor, you remove the engines ability to hold throttle wide open at start. Jet size? Only problem I have is it is dumping fuel out of the carb. However, you can choose not to allow certain types of cookies, but if you do so, it may negatively impact your experience of the site and the services we are able to offer, and you may not be able to fully use certain portions of the site. If you have a different carb with a brass screw close to the engine side of the intake(idle mixture screw), the standard is about 2 full rotations out from seated. The engine hasn't been released yet. Most people use between a #36 and #38 jet in conjunction with the predator 212cc performance parts. Predator stage 1 mods will still give you GAINZZZZZZ even with the governor intact. Can you run light oil? I need help my 212cc predator engine wont start. Can you advance timing for your target rpm? I have looked all over google and you tube to find the max time but had no luck im thinking you know and could possibly help me. Removing the governor, obviously. Not at all. depends on which mod, but what I suggest is that you do modifications in stages because some mods (e.g. Hope that helps! Mod cams on 212 pre. I just put a 212 Predator on my mini bike and would like more top speed. Box stock engines/predator engines run the stock flywheel and stock crank in box stock classes turning 6500-6700ish rpm. Someone mocked up the Ghost 212 kart racing engine with a 252 camshaft all put together inside a standard 212 Predator Hemi with a cast iron flywheel to sell for $300. The less restriction you have for the engines air intake, the more air and fuel will enter the combustion chamber. Some people break the flywheel loose by just tapping it with a hammer. I did not drive it hard be fore it quit. I did not physically remove the governor from the engine. A flywheel designed for the predator engine will work on the predator engine. Turn the choke to off. Im building whats known as a motor floater basically a glider with a small engine, and I dont plan on getting above ground effect till Ive felt it out real good first. Once I adjusted it everything was perfect. Would a torque converter help and what does it do exactly? We guarantee this product to be free from defects in materials and workmanship 90 days from the date of purchase. Mine stock tops out around 20mph and I weigh around 150. Is this a option or do I need to fix it or replace with another Gy6? My dad works for Harbor Freight and he told me they got a 212 Ghost on their truck today. So you have a gravity fed system (stock carbs) that works great unless you either dont get enough gravity fuel flow, or you have to mount the gas tank lower than the carb itself. If you opened up the engine it could be that you forgot to align the dots on the cam/crank gear. You need to just search for things the right way. What do I do? What is the max rpm on my stock 212 no governor. Yeah, steel, hardware(nuts/bolts), engine are the only things you need to get separate from the kit. You can adjust or remove it at this point Might want to remove it and try a direct linkage. Youll also need a battery which are also available and affordable. Stock flywheels are not designed to spin that fast. My question is my sproket and clutch are from a funkart 5hp do I need to replace these with better ones? This Predator engine comes with a PZ22 carburetor with a manual choke and a recoil pull-start. Predator 212cc engines can have their stock parts removed, and replaced with performance parts (parts that increase horsepower and speed compared to the stock predator 6.5 hp engine). I read that the engine wont start if the oil is low and I checked it and its almost black so we will change the oil my question is would the oil being low/obviously nasty be a reason for not being able to pull the starter? You cannot opt-out of our Strictly Necessary Cookies as they are deployed in order to ensure the proper functioning of our website (such as prompting the cookie banner and remembering your settings, to log into your account, to redirect you when you log out, etc.). What should be my next upgrade? Did you replace intake and exhaust with high flow? I dont think it is billet because it was about half the price of all the billet rods Ive looked at. Apparently, at higher rpm the stock flywheel can shatter. So if you have spark, you need to check air. I tried to pull the starter but I couldnt pull the cord out at all. governor taking out doesnt add hp, it just lets you rev to higher rpms. That sheet metal cover held on with a few screws isnt stopping crap. It was definitely getting gas when I was draining the excess from carb. Is there a certain clutch that works better than others? You can search go kart speed calculator and put in all the data that is needed and it will spit out a number for you. The line from the valve cover is also one of those emission reducing lines so it originally vented back to the airbox. I can't elaborate any more on that currently, but I hope to soon in the future. Required fields are marked *. Its good insurance. CAn you install different ratio rockers? Its already fast for a gocart but i would willingly take it to an extreme level. Make ANY other mods and you strongly risk catching flying chunks of metal with your anatomy. I can start up the engine with the choke on, but when the choke is on it revs very high which seems to be normal with the videos that I watched, but dont want to go flying when starting it up on the ground if theres any way to fix that. Compare our price of $299.99 to BRIGGS & STRATTON at $599 (model number: 124332-8003). If you dont see any, then you can be relatively safe up to about 6k rpms. Cranks and cranks and eventually starts. Pull the cord and it fires right back up. 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